I am with Arbuckle. Parks are for civil activities and events. Taxpayers should not be perpetuating more violence, by sponsoring such events in public places. You can find violence almost anywhere you look. TV, Internet, movies glorifying destructive behaviors.

Fresno needs to stand up for our children, and say no to this, and yes to healthy family events in public places.

Realistically, there is probably nothing we can do about it! They also permit rap concerts on public property - what’s the difference? You’ve seen one thug, you’ve seen ‘em all!

Keep on stereotyping, T C ...

I see that a post can get lost in cyberspace. I mailed a post when the post counter was 0

Redpeach is right. Taxpayers should only perpetuate and sponsor violence in the Middle East. (This, of course, includes the torture of prisoners.)

I just found out that one has to click on the underlined stuff within the post, thus I found all the comments by Denny Boyles (formerly of The Clovis Independent??) as well as other posts. I still don't understand where they came from. I also re-post some comments from(July 22, 5:45 P.M.)
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That Christine Arbuckle seems to be alone in the opposition does not make her wrong. Majority rule can easily turn into mob rule. I would not go to see the spectacle of people beating up on each other for sport.

But I would actively get involved in a movement that would demand that land
endowments have be to used for whatever purpose the donor had given it.
Fresno State has been given a great deal of land for ag purposes, but it is
being used for commercial development. The Roedings heirs were aghast what
Fresno is doing and or planning with the given land, and now Woodpark sees gross abuse as to the intent of the gift.

I WOULD NOT GIVE A SQUARE INCH OF LAND TO A CITY OR A UNIVERSITY, lest
I had a watertight contract that it had to be used as near as possible for the purpose it had been given.

Hand to hand combat as entertainment? Each to his own taste, but there are better places for such a competition than a peaceful park. But I am getting far too old for Sisyphus tasks. "May the power be with you" Christine Arbuckle.

Yes, Isabell. Denny used to work for The Clovis Independent, back in 1999. He's also my husband.

Lisa Maria Boyles. I miss those days when the citizens still had a voice in the use and destination of public property. Clovis was my battleground...and it was good.

I remember, Isabell. You were a mighty warrior. Clovis lost a strong voice when we lost you to your new neighborhood.

This is not sports, It's santioned brutality and the children are watching. bloodsport is a mentality that shouldn't be encouraged and I'm pleased to be in agreement with T.C. 'n Peaches.

As usual, Wayne misses the point entirely. The discussion is about public places meant for family activities.

Bate and switch is an old and failed argument strategy.

I was at Woodward Park the night of the fight. While I do enjoy a good fight and appreciate the science and artistry of it, the fight was not why I was there. In celebration of our friend's 33rd birthday, his wife and three daughters, my girlfriend and I, and several other friends gathered to hear Hamlet performed by the Woodward Shakespeare Festival.

Not only did we have to struggle to listen through the roaring thousands and the typical excessive fight music from just up the street. We also had to deal with a steady stream of early-departers from the fight, on the way back to their cars screaming and booing and shouting "HAMLET SUCKS!!!!" from just outside the fence. Oh really??... Well our fights apparently lasted longer. And you know what else?? Everyone dies in Hamlet. How cool is that?!?!

Also, 3 separate times during the play a helicopter flew into the park, circling low specifically over the play, and then flying back out. I don't know but I figured it was FPD. With the number of people at the park, air support was certainly a necessary precaution. But why would they make their turns right over the play? Were they concerned that the noise would disturb the fight-goers' enjoyment of "Danger Zone" from the Top Gun soundtrack? Probably would have added to it!!!

I moved from Hanford to Fresno some years back. At that time, I figured I'd finish school and head north for better weather. Since then I had decided that I really would like to stay around here. The art community, specifically the music community, has had me really wanting to stay. I've been told that, sometime prior to Save Mart Center, Essence Magazine had made a list of the best cities in the USA to go hear live music and that Fresno was ranked 5th or 6th.

Considering how the Arts are received in Fresno, I'm beginning to wonder whether staying here is worth sweating the summers. I wonder if these people really deserve the art/performance art community they have.