October 5, 2008

arrow A conversation with Hal Holbrook

into_l.jpgIn Sunday's Spotlight section I chat in my column with Hal Holbrook, who has played Mark Twain on stage for so many years that it can be hard to tell where the Oscar-nominated actor stops and where the author begins. He's appearing in "Mark Twain Tonight!" Friday and Saturday at the Saroyan Theatre.

I'd looked forward to this phone interview for a while, not so much because of the Mark Twain angle (although it was fun to hear him in character blast Wall Street greed and corruption on the day that the House of Representatives failed to pass the bailout bill) but because of a movie scene of his that has really stuck with me. And I'd always wanted to ask him about it.

In "Into the Wild," Holbrook portrays a lonely old man who meets the young and adventurous Chris McCandless (played by Emile Hirsch), the subject of the fact-based film, who decides he wants to give up his standard upper-middle-class American career trajectory to go live in the Alaska wilderness. Holbrook's character becomes a sort of grandfather figure to him, and in their final scene together they share an emotional moment of farewell. Both know that this is good-bye for good (although Hirsch's character wouldn't have truly realized the danger he was heading toward). There's a definite "pass the torch" theme at work, too: the older man stepping aside and letting the younger one move out into the world. The scene is such a moment of searing honesty on screen that the memory of it can still bring a tear to my eye. It's as if we we moved beyond acting and watched life itself unfold. Out of the thousands of movies I've seen, it's one of the handful of scenes that has remained indelibly stamped in my memory.

I asked him what he remembered about making that scene. He told me:

How natural it felt. How simple it was. It was mostly due to the way that Sean Penn directs actors, which is basically to let you alone. Trusting you that whatever you're going to give him is going to be OK. It's easier to arrive at a good moment like we had there in the Jeep. We knew this was an important scene, of course. We just sat in the Jeep together with our own thoughts while the crew set up the lights. We didn't talk to each other. It took about 20 minutes for the set-up. When the camera started to roll, we just played the scene. I think we only did one take. I remember looking at Sean and thought he was going to having me do another take, and he just gave me the thumbs up. And I knew that something special had happened.

Lots of other people did, too. Holbrook nabbed an Oscar nomination for the role.

7:58 AM | | Comments (4)



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I'm glad you pointed out "Into the Wild", and particularly this scene - one of the truest and most touching on screen in a long time. Thanks for sharing Mr. Holbrook's impressions on it.

Posted by: Jay Parks at October 6, 2008 8:00 AM

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I loved the series Hal Holbrook was in the 1960's "My World and Welcome to It". He has come a long way since then.

Posted by: Martin Martinez at October 6, 2008 10:10 AM

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It's astounding that Hal Holbrook has been playing the role of Mark Twain for 50 years!...or, as Donald says, "channeling the role". I also am glad that you mentioned the brilliant director Sean Penn's film, "Into the Wild". He is a gifted director indeed, and rightfully respected by many within the film industry. In my opinion, he's gotten the very best acting from the infamous Jack Nicholson (in "The Pledge" & "The Crossing Guard"). "Into the Wild" is an incredible journey in itself, and Hal"s role in forming a relationship with the main character is so genuine and heartfelt...it tugs at one's soulfulness.

Posted by: JANET HEIDINGER at October 6, 2008 1:00 PM

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I totally agree with you that this was a rare movie moment that left an impression on the soul. I would be equally excited to pick the brain of Hal about that moment. Very cool of you to share.

I had a similar moment in the movie Bella, just in case you get that chance.

Posted by: Jeanie McKelvey at November 15, 2008 7:55 PM

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