December 3, 2005

Save the 'Dogs

Save the 'Dogs! ... Can a Fresno State victory in the Liberty Bowl restore any faith and honor for the football program?

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turn overs and penalties have been the nemisis for the dogs for years agression is great in sport but disipline is greater. Pineger, brand new baby keeping a daddy up all night any one think that might be a big factor besides me?

Posted by: rick at December 3, 2005 10:06 PM

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What do the Fresno St. fans think of the rumor going around that their offensive coordinator may end up at the University of Arkansas.

Posted by: James at December 4, 2005 2:19 AM

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The best way to restore faith and honor in Bulldog football is to fire the whole coaching staff and start over. This coach has broken too many hearts too many times.
I suggest we go after the Bosie Coach. He wins the WAC every year.

Posted by: Emery Haggin at December 4, 2005 7:16 AM

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Please save the dogs

Posted by: Erik Freund at December 4, 2005 8:14 AM

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Another year of FSU football, another year of heartbreak. Not because of the record, the victories, the losses but the continued penalties that I have watched over the years destroy drives, momentum and help the opponents drive the stake right through my heart. I thought this year was different-the early games showed a team that was more mature, and held the bone-headed personal fouls and holding penalties in check and it showed in our play. We blew out the teams we were supposed to and played the tougher teams close.

The last two games of this year bascially portrayed the team that I have watched over the years come slow close to turning the corner but can't close the deal. I can't point to anything more then overall mental disipline as the biggest contributing factor (along with a boatload of turnovers). They didn't even show up for the final two games. I flew from the East coast to see the USC game. I knew we would play that team tough and the days after that game I realized that if FSU finished the year strong that the program could really turn a corner in terms of future scheduling, recruiting, and exposure. We could stop playing the Thursday, Friday, and even Tuesday night games and really be on our way to stepping up to the bigtime. Living in the land of SEC and ACC country there is a major difference in how the west coast is viewed in football and that is the major conferences-well the major conference being the PAC 10. I write this after the La Tech game, however the Nevada game is the one that will set this program back in the eyes of national exposure for a while.

Well--I am sure the Liberty Bowl against Tulsa will not draw too many FSU fans out, and as a result, will hurt FSU's chances down the road of ever drawing a bigger bowl.

I will be back as a fan, but perhaps more casually as I will be waiting for the collapse mitigated by mindless penalties----again.

Until next year!

Posted by: CW at December 4, 2005 8:43 AM

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As a long time supporter of Fresno State football, it hurts to see our team play below the levels we know they can play too.... Without calling out any specific names on the coaching staff or players, I have to start with the defensive side of the ball. Just too many snaps were given to the LA Tech offense.... One sack the entire game to almost any D-1 football program, isn't going to keep the offense off of the field. Defensive backs who are in man coverage, getting beat often and not even looking for the ball, when it was easily an interceptable / under thrown ball, is unexcusable at this level. Number 13 on LA Tech, their QB, had enough time for a cup coffee on almost every pass play. Virtually almost non-existent pressure was put on their QB. We also over pursued when we did get any pressure in their backfield, which set up their screen and draw plays brilliantly.....

On the offensive side of the ball, we just didn't adjust to their defensive schemes. Their D-Line was putting up their arms and were very successful in batting down Pinegar's short passes over the middle. Time and again, we went back to the well, and the balls were either batted down or picked off.... We didn't challenge them on any seam routes, which allowed them to play cover 3 by dropping their middle linebacker into coverage, taking away the quick slants of Joe Fernandez and others....
Devyn McDonald and Paul Williams, two of our taller receivers were under utilized on seam routes, where their size could be utilized more effectively....

I'm a bulldog fan who drives my family from the Irvine area in So. Cal to be their in person to support our team. Coach Pat Hill has our full support, but he has to take a hard look at his coordinators on both sides of the ball. It seems they may not be scouting and developing schemes as intensively as they were earlier in the season. Always remember that the opposing teams are developing new schemes to off-set our " Go To " plays and we need to do a little better job of adding " Looks " the oppposing team hasn't seen on film already....

Posted by: John Reed at December 4, 2005 12:02 PM

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In my opinion, accepting the Liberty Bowl bid is what led to the Bulldog demise. I don't think the players care if the university makes 1.5 million. They also don't care to play Tulsa whom they never lost to in the WAC. These players, particularly the seniors, wanted to go out playing a Michigan or an Alabama or even highly-ranked TCU--not Tulsa. I think the players feel that the university sold them out for the payday. These last 2 bad performances weren't caused by a letdown from the USC game as many people think.

Larry Phillips
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Posted by: Larry Phillips at December 4, 2005 3:30 PM

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I am endlessly tired of hearing people talk about the WAC being weak and that FSU needs to be in a better conference. While I agree that the better the competiton the better the 'dogs play, it is tiresome to hear people complaining about a so called weak conference. If the conference were weak, then the 'dogs would win it every year. Instead FSU has shared the WAC title 3 times and never out right.
I hear people saying FSU belongs in the Mountain West. Well, over half the teams in the MWC have won an outright WAC title before going to the MWC (and they did it against better competition.
I also hear people talk about how FSU beats the big boy's of college football. Of the 10 wins against those teams, only a handful went on to have winning seasons and 2 to bowl games and 2 were bowl opponents. So the vs. BCS teams record is irrelevent. So people need to quit bringing that up as well.
I have been an avid and proud Bulldog fan my entire life. But even I have been having my doubts about Pat Hill lately.
He says he wants to recruit kids from the Valley. He does, but not a lot of them start or even play. It was brought to my attention that it is not easy for FSU to recruit against USC, UCLA, Stanford, and many others. People can honoestly say it is impossible to recruit in your own back yard? Well, if you win conference title, then it gets easier.
Then I look back and wonder how a Super Bowl winning coach like Brian Billick was beat out by Pat Hill for the job. I wonder why, Dennis Erickson a former Jim Sweeney assistant, who won a National title at Miami and turned around Oregon State, has not been brought in by Pat Hill as part of the coaching staff.
I also wonder why I am babling on and on about an issue that repeats itself every year. Well, I am a fan. A fan the cares. But until the dogs win an outright title, I will not attend any games until they win a title or Pat Hill moves on...

Posted by: Rocco at December 4, 2005 4:02 PM

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It happened in 2001, remember? That was the season David Carr and the offense HAD to SCORE 40 a game to win with a porous defense. It's happened again and until Pat Hill starts getting athletes on the D side to match the obvious offensive talent, FSU will remain a big-time pretender...FSU actually has had teams with good athletes on the D side. The 1985 unbeaten Kevin Sweeney team
featured several future NFL standouts, including Michael Stewart and David Grayson, and had talented performers (Rod Webster, Cliff Hanneman) throughout...Turnovers have hurt, but they didn't prevent a near-miss at USC. Face it, the Bulldogs lack the defensive talent to rate first-rate. Hill says he doesn't have any answers for what happened the last two weeks. He knows better. You don't surrender 127 points in three weeks and have much chance of winning.

Posted by: bob mac at December 4, 2005 4:12 PM

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Friday night, ESPN2 coverage, last game for senior players who have given us some great football this year, and you walk out before halftime. A man sitting in front of me wearing a David Carr jersey is booing the Bulldogs. It was like a nightmare for me and I wasnt even on the field.
I know they were doing poorly but to have people walk out didnt help the situation. Support THE BULLDOGS WIN OR LOSE
I have my ticket to the Liberty Bowl and I will be there in Bulldog red , I love them win or lose and have hope that they will redeem themselves by finishing the year with a win in Memphis........ GOOOOOOO DOGS

Posted by: Fan Win or Lose at December 4, 2005 6:22 PM

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To the players, and coaching staff of Fresno State: You guys have done a hell off job as players and coaches for Fresno State football and a lot of uf are proud of your performance against USC, Boise State, and Hawaii. Pat Hill has done a great job of bringing the Bulldogs to the big game. Yes, the players lost the last two games because of immaturity and that is it. They have proven they have the talent to be #1, they just need to want it mentally. I do not blame them at all for the last two games. Mentally, those were the toughest games to play all year because of the USC game. Who cares about Nevada and LA Tech. Its like going on a vacation to Hawaii and having the time of your life and then the next two vacations back to back are in Detroit, and Milwaukee. Fresno State will beat Tulsa, and it will be a great game! For those of you whining about Fresno State, shut up and hit somebody, go out for the team yourself and help out, or go home. And while I am at it, join the military and help those kids out or shut up and go home. Shut up and hit somebody( means do something with your life ). Go Dogs, good job Pinegar, keep your head up and do not ever give up.

Posted by: Darin at December 4, 2005 8:29 PM

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This year hurts, plain and simple. I can't remember being this dissapointed since the '01 season. I think Pat Hill is a great coach but he knows that aspirations of expanding bulldog stadium and of one day playing BCS teams on a regular basis just went out the window. The Dogs just seemed like a totally different team the last two weeks. Now they won't be going into the Liberty Bowl ranked, and ratings will be down. But with all that said, keep your head up bulldogs. You gave the city something great to root for this year, and that's really all a community can ask for.

Posted by: TruDog at December 4, 2005 11:36 PM

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To CW, John Reed, and Other Broken-hearted Red Wavers:

I too cover long distances (Monterey County) for games to support my school and her teams, and thought maybe this was the year that would finally turn the corner for out football program. The lack of discipline appears to be ingrained in both the players (mindless penalties, silly breakdowns) and coaching staff (lack of preparation later in the season, refusal to make adjustments before and during games), and has been breaking my heart for many years. What hurt most this year though, was the lack of heart displayed--and called out in the open by McIntyre--after the "Big Game" was over in L.A.

Of course I will be back in support of my school's team next year, but I just don't know if I can maintain the fervor any longer. As CW mentioned, I may be a little more casual in my commitment. These 'Dogs just hurt too much.

Steve B.

Posted by: Steve Burnes at December 5, 2005 6:27 AM

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Did I make a mistake, by not getting a ticket to the bowl game here in Charlotte NC and going to Memphis instead?

Hill, tell your players that there is a difference in playing hard and playing stupid.

Hill, knock off your routine offense. Go with a full backfield, short passes and pull out all some old trick plays. Hey, let the defense know, that they are allow to play in the game.

I do hope my trip from Charlotte to Memphis is worth it. Heck, at least I will see the Beach Boys

Posted by: Bill Zavacky at December 5, 2005 7:03 AM

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What a year. Once again as it has been mentioned several times the Dogs keep breaking our hearts. Every year the fans come out and support the Dogs and we fall for the talk of coach Hill about this being his best squad, and Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah. I was so dissapointed sitting there in the third Quarter friday night at Bulldog Stadium, two things happened, the Dogs gave up and the fans got up and walked out. By the middle of the fourth, the stadium had less people there then at the first scrimmage in the summer. Several good points have been made so far in this post. We DO go to the well to often, WE DO lose focus in games we are suppose to win, and the lack of discipline appears to be ingrained in both the players (mindless penalties, silly breakdowns) and coaching staff (lack of preparation later in the season, refusal to make adjustments before and during games),(thank you Steve B) I will still be there next year, but the passions has definetly been diminished some.

Posted by: Bob M at December 5, 2005 8:25 AM

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I'd like to thank the disloyal whiners on this board for confirming America's perception that Californians are fair-weather fans who show up late, leave early, and cut and run when things are tough. I was born and raised in Fresno and despite living over 2000 miles away, support the bulldogs fervently. I constantly find myself defending misconceptions about my home state but it has clearly been in vain. I always thought the Valley had an attitude of commitment and perseverence but that is obviously incorrect. Pat Hill has done more for this program in the last nine years than any of you here care to admit and to see that people in the Valley believe he deserves to be fired is appalling. Despite all of the progress this program has made, people in the valley continue to focus on the negative. I currently live in Virginia and I am just as proud to display the Bulldog decal on my car today as I was last year after the MPC Bowl. This board clearly shows that the valley is full of ingrates who lack heart and don't deserve a program that has competed with some of the best programs in the nation. The bulldogs did play like complete trash the last two games of the season. Adjustments will be made and this program will get better. Setbacks are inevitable but they allow you to see your weaknesses and correct them. Pat Hill is not as stupid as all of you love to believe. I will proudly cheer for Paul Pinegar's unprecedented fourth straight bowl win on New Years Eve and, win or lose, will still support the program that has made noticeable progress from the 4-7 '96 squad.

Posted by: Jimmy at December 5, 2005 8:58 AM

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I just want to know: what day and what time is the Liberty Bowl game (Fresno vs Tulsa) to be played? Are there tickets still available?

Will it be televised? If only on a sellout, will ESPN cover it?

Posted by: PTaylor at December 5, 2005 9:36 AM

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Well, reading this makes me sick! I'm transplanted from Baltimore, more than 20 years now. Didn't even know who the bulldogs were in 1985. But I do now!! I've been a fan, supporter, lover and hater of the dogs since I've arrived. But I will NEVER stop believing in them. NO MATTER WHAT! More has happened in the last 9 years than in the previous 11 I can tell you. Yes we won then, but we have also won now and the national attention is Tremendous. My heart is broken for the players and coaches over the last 3 games not the last two. We could have won all three. I feel bad for them because at #16, they could/should have won at Nevada and LaTech, then with USC CRUSHING UCLA we would have easily moved into the top 10, hey guys the TOP 10!! How bad do you think the players and coaches feel about THAT! When prior to Pat Hill did THAT happen?? Wake up people, we're complaining about 8 and 9 win seasons, about playing in 7 straight bowls, about winning the last three?! Get off your butts and give some money to the program and so we can upgrade everything and attract and keep the talent that regularly leaves the valley. I want a 70 thousand seat stadium here, with a huge budget so we can beat the CRAP out of EVERYONE. So, as Pat Hill so eloquently puts it "SHUP UP AND HIT SOMEBODY", remember, that goes for US too. GO DOGS!

Posted by: Thomas at December 5, 2005 10:01 AM

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fresno state chokes when it comes down to pressure and having something that they can lose from a game. that is why they can play so well against bcs teams because they have nothing to lose, but when there is something to lose fresno state CHOKES!!! when they go and play Tulsa in the liberty bowl nobody is going to care but the people in the san joaquin valley. if fresno wins who cares it's against tulsa, who had just left the wac. good job of choking fresno.
I will be at the Rose bowl, GO TROJANS!!! BEAT THE LONGHORNS!!!!

Posted by: fresno state chokers at December 5, 2005 11:01 AM

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Heart broken, night sweat and mad as hell, is me. Year in and year out, Dogs broke fans heart. Instead of going for the kill in every game to the end, they pretend and wins the heart of the fans for 5/6 games, then falters and lay an egg. The last two games are on national TV and from what I saw, Dog players and coaches didn't even come prepare to play. As worse as it seemed, Dogs didn't even challenge their opponent. PH will never be able to take Dogs to another level, infact, PH is use to this and will forever keep Dogs in this kind of situation. Hate the fact that this is reality.....

Posted by: G. Dog at December 5, 2005 11:06 AM

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I'm a Valley product that's living deep in SEC country at the moment, and would have to say that there's still some respect for Fresno State down here despite the last two games. Don't forget that K-State, Oregon, and Wisconsin are all scheduled to come to Bulldog Stadium in the next 3-4 years due to what's been going on under Hill's watch...regardless of WAC Championships. Winning the WAC is the next step to being a consistent Top-15 team, with potential of new conference affiliations to follow. VA Tech and Florida St. weren't successful overnight either. The only thing I'd like to see in the meantime is that all the fickle, bandwagon fans that were booing and left the game early never come back to Bulldog Stadium again.

Posted by: Ron at December 5, 2005 12:26 PM

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Obviously alot of you out there are not what I consider " true Bulldog fans". Those of you who are bad mouthing the coaching staff and the players may have valid reasons for their actions and reasoning but let's face it... we have all screwed up at least once in the past. The mistakes that were made can and will be corrected in time. Coach Hill and his coaches will get things straightened out in time for the Liberty Bowl and the following football season.Heck, I've been a "fan" ever since my uncle played for the Bulldogs back in "65 under Coach Phil Kruegher and the attendence at Radcliffe Stadium would swell up to 17,000 to see Air Coryell of the San Diego Aztecs come into town. Man, you talk about the "fans" getting into a frenzy watching their beloved Dogs going against this "Goliath" of a football team. Now within these last 40 years has my loyality withered because we have lost some games. I am proud of the players and coaches that have come and gone,proud to see that we'll take on anyone,anywhere,anytime and proud to see Fresno in the top 25 rankings. Can you imagene how many football teams are in Division I and we're ranked in the top 25! So to all of the fans who are now bad-mouthing and falling off the Bulldog bandwagon...have a nice trip.I've developed a hard skin because I am also a die hard Raider fan...once a Raider...always a Raider. Go figure!
Dan


Posted by: DAN at December 5, 2005 3:37 PM

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I believe the Dogs can gain momentum for next year by going to Memphis and beating Tulsa. Dogs, get back to a balanced attack of run and play action passing. We came back against USC in the second half because they didn't know what was coming. Eat up the clock with the ground game and have Pinegar pass about 25 times. I believe that is the best formula for Fresno State to regain momentum. We must remember, this team was one interception from tying USC. They were knocked down in the second half at USC and fought back. They've been knocked down the last two weeks. Let's support the Dogs and help them fight back again. Go Dogs!

Posted by: Chad at December 5, 2005 4:42 PM

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Think the Liberty Bowl wants its invitation back?

Posted by: prima facie at December 5, 2005 8:29 PM

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Can anybody name a more frustrating College Football team?

Posted by: Mikie at December 5, 2005 9:07 PM

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Has anyone considered the pressure that we put on young men, age 18-22 to perform at a superior level for our own entertainment? Maybe thats why the dogs buckle.

They have (so far) an 8 win season, and you are disappointed? When was the last time we didn't go to a bowl game? 1998? If an NFL team won 66% of its games, it'd be 11-5 come the end of the regular season...but this isn't good enough for you?

People...seriously...this is a game being played by (literally) kids. Don't point a finger at a young man trying to get an education...if you do, you need to look at your own life and figure out what is wrong with you. Players don't come to Fresno State to have a chance at the pros...the bulldogs numbers are not exactly stellar...they choose Fresno for love of the game, for love of the san joaquin vallet, and to get an education. Let us not forget that education is what college is about.

So, maybe they ended a season full of hope on a disappointing downward spiral. You think the players aren't more disappointed than you? If you don't, you've never put on a jock strap. Let the kids be, continue to support the program, and lets kick some ass in the liberty bowl!

Posted by: Josh at December 6, 2005 12:12 PM

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I must admit I have a good laugh when I here the coach and others say that the Bulldogs deserve to be a BCS team at the begining of every season. I do enjoy the Bulldog games because I enjoy college football but this valley has no idea of what a real college game can be like in a conference such as the SEC. I have gone to a couple of games at Auburn and that is the real thing. Sorry to say but the Bulldogs would look like a high school team in the South if they played the way they have been.In fact they looked like a high school team the last couple of weeks. I think we need a new coach. Fresno will never get into another conference until they can at least win the worst league in D1 , the WAC.

Posted by: DW at December 6, 2005 3:47 PM

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I can't believe what I am reading. I lived in Fresno for 25 years and love the Bulldogs. I now live in Ames, Iowa and still stay up after midnight to follow the scores of my Dogs. I wear my FSU gear here in the heart of Big 12 country with a lot of pride and get a lot of positive comments. (I was probably the only Bulldog fan at the Basketball game this past Saturday night). Pat Hill has done more for the Bulldog program than the so-so coach of Baltimore ever could have done, or most anyone else for that matter. Believe me Billick would have been long gone as soon as other opportunities were presented to him. Yes, the USC game was tough, and yes, the Nevada and LA Tech games were even tougher, but remember that college football is just that. These losses will hurt the players forever. I know, its all that is talked about in Ames as well. Iowa State doormats to the Big 12 North, well the last two years the Cyclones have had an opportunity to win the Big 12 North outright and lost it both years. The players are crushed just like those players on our FSU team. In my book Pat Hill and staff have delivered a VERY good competitive program that still believes in making the athletes attend class. Wake up Fresno, you could have a poor program like San Jose State, one in which the community doesn't have any pride and always has a revolving door of coaches. Fresno has a winning team and dedicated coaching staff.

Posted by: Kevin Derr at December 6, 2005 4:54 PM

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Both the naysayers and defenders have valid points. I moved to LA 25 years ago and have been trying to defend Fresno State to the USC/UCLA crowd ever since and it won't get any easier now. I almost think it would have been better had we not played and done so well against USC because it did finally succeed in getting us some national attention, only to then do more damage than good to our reputation with the last 2 games.

But with that, I also remember going to Radcliffe to watch games against Cal State Fullerton. We have come a long way since then. Jim Sweeney got it started, but does anyone really think that any realistic candidate for head coach other than Pat Hill could have gotten us to where we are right now.

I won't be anticipating the Liberty Bowl with quite as much fervor now either, but either stay on the bus or get off. The next lesson in our evolution will be to learn to finish the job and handle success like a true championship program. If you disagree, you better hurry because the USC bandwagon is almost full.

Posted by: Doug at December 6, 2005 10:24 PM

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I am sorry to see the dogs become the "Fresno Frauds". It has to fall on the coach who could not motivate his players.

Posted by: jim at December 7, 2005 3:02 PM

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typical FSU fans.....front runners. fresno is not a top10 team...never will be. But they are entertaining and they represent fresno well. I've followed from the LA state, Cal Poly days...and I've seen good football most of the time. Enjoy what you have instead of wanting what will never be.

Posted by: walt at December 7, 2005 10:25 PM

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The team's focus every year was BCS bowls when the whole nation knows a mid-major college program has no chance to get in because of the conference they're in. Why bother for BCS every year? To me, just concentrate on the WAC and playing Div.II for non-conference. The players looked bang up after USC game.

Posted by: John at December 8, 2005 6:10 AM

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Fresno will be a BCS busster next year just wait and see. Hill is doing a good job, next year about this time you will all see, he has a powerful team coming back. For all you out there that don't know, you better ask somebody.

Posted by: Edward Ford Jr. at December 8, 2005 6:53 AM

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No. If Fresno State show up at the Liberty Bowl with their "A" team and wins it will only highlight the problem with the coaching. A team as capable as FSU who's team members cannot focus for on a game for one hour when the chips are down has a fundenmental problem. This has been going on for years. Look back at the history of our football team over the past ten years.

Posted by: Ken at December 8, 2005 8:41 AM

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Does this post make any sense?
Are you a Bulldog fan or a winer?
Here is how I see this... Yes we got caught looking ahead to our bowl game, but you are still our Dogs! We had a good season, you will be back in the top 25 and watch the bandwagon increase LOL.. Brandstater has already got alot of pressure on him and this season is still going on. We do expect alot from our team, because we believe in them and in our coaches!!! I loved all the games that I seen this season, the highs and the lows, that is part of the magic of college football. Remember your first date, the first kiss and the excitment you felt, same as our Dogs as the rankings began to increase and the national exposure became greater? Well same as the girl that broke your heart and the heavy feeling you had in your gut, the feeling you had walking to your car at 10 o'clock friday night in the cold wondering what happened. But after a few nights sleep and a few beers, I am recharged and ready for our game that we will be ready for and focused! The Pride of the Valley will roll and the true Red Wave will stand proud! Support your Dogs and "Shut up and Hit Someone"... Love ya Pat and Our Bulldog Squad!

Posted by: Bob M at December 8, 2005 9:30 AM

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I am a Bulldogs fan, and one that is tired of seeing them squander and blunder at the close of each season. Great schools rarely do that. Fresno State football tends to do this each year. Yeah, they deserve support, but they also need to find the formula to win conference games.

Posted by: Sports Fan at December 8, 2005 12:59 PM

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I am a Bulldogs fan through and through, but I'm sick and tired of the mid-season collapse each year (this year it occured at the end because it always happens after our non-conference schedule is over and that didn't happen until the last two games). Each year, the Bulldogs have what appears to be a vastly superior team and is favored by every body in the country and they go out and lose two games in a row. This year was worse because it just looked like the players weren't even trying. We could no longer run the ball, Pinegar could no longer throw to Bulldog receivers, and the defense seemed more interested in running after people than actually hitting them. It may be time for Hill to go. It happens every year. I know, in the end, it's up to the players to play, but the coach has to be able to motivate at least ONE player...and it didn't look like he could at the end of this year. For more, visit jimmyduvet.blogspot.com and look for the FIRE PAT HILL post.

Posted by: Jimmy D at December 8, 2005 2:36 PM

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I agree with the Sports Fan's post. We have suffered nine long years with Pat Hill and his coaching staff. It has been nothing but a disaster because we have never won an outright WAC title. Sure we may have beaten a lot of BCS teams, but in the long run it doesn't matter without a WAC championship. It's time for Pat Hill to go because he is trying to build this program up the wrong way. Instead of worrying about the so-called BCS teams, worry about winning a WAC championship and then you will be building the program up the right way. I have a message for Edward Ford, Jr. This school will not be a BCS buster next year because their coach is too pigheaded and selfish to allow it to happen. The best thing for him to do is to resign after this bowl game and to go to the NFL, which is what he wants to do anyway, he is just buying time here. He does not care about the players or the university. He just cares about himself and making himself look good. He does not realize that it does not matter how many BCS wins that you get if you don't win a WAC championship, than you might as well not play BCS teams. He covers for his quarterback left and right, even when he plays horrible. He says and I quote, "Paul has had an amazing year and all he does is win!" Excuse me Pat, but if all he does is win than we would not be having this conversation right now. Distractions are always going surround a team, in any year. If our coach cannot motivate our players to look past those distractions and focus on the game in front of them, not the game two weeks ahead of them, then he does not need to be our coach. I love Fresno State and it's my alma matter, so it obviously hurts me to talk like this, but this is how I truly feel. For those that may not agree with me, I want you to ponder this question: Do you really want another 2005 where it starts out great and ends on a bad note? I know that I don't and I am sure that after you think about it that you won't either.

Posted by: Steve at December 8, 2005 2:45 PM

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You gotta love the homers on this blog and others about FS. The team loses their conference every year, then say anyone that doubts the coaching staff is a whiner. The Dogs are major losers and so is their staff until they show they can close the deal. Until then FS is a wannabe team in a wannabe town.

Posted by: Karl at December 8, 2005 4:18 PM

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Does anyone know of any High School athlete from the Valley who has gone on to win a College National Championship in their sport ? Any besides football?

Posted by: dw at December 8, 2005 4:41 PM

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Hey DW. his name is Rob Adolph... went to USC in the 60's and 70's. Won titles in baseball and football... he is from dinuba...

Posted by: Rocco at December 8, 2005 5:25 PM

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When the 'Dogs attend Obedience School, they'll be winners. So easy to blame a coach -- where's the accountability of a player? A coach can't motivate a player who doesn't care. Fresno could have (and should have) won EVERY game. Period. They definitely had the talent. They lacked will and desire to work as a TEAM. There's no excuse for the penalties and sloppy, stupid play. That's a PLAYER's responsibility.

Posted by: Onthegoma at December 8, 2005 6:13 PM

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What mindless nonsense. To be a Bulldog fan you have to blindly applaud inept coaching, undisciplined play and losing to inferior opponents? That is just STUPID!! Progress does not come at the end of a complacent attitude! Pat Hill losses the WAC every year (Boise wins it every year)and this year takes the cake because this is a watered down Big West + Big Sky conference. How do mindless, always satsified fans spell choke? Objective success oriented fans spell it N-E-V-A-D-A + LA-T-E-C-H

Posted by: Fred from Reedley at December 8, 2005 7:02 PM

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I STILL LOVE THE BULLDOGS, WIN OR LOSE.....

Posted by: Lupe at December 8, 2005 7:28 PM

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How about 1987, Doug Fraley, a Clovis West Grad, won the NCAA Outdoor Pole Vault championship for Fresno State.

Posted by: Craig at December 9, 2005 12:10 AM

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Here's another one from the past- Pat Howell- former Fresno High lineman in the early 70's, All-American guard at USC from 1976-78, with USC winning the National Championship in 78.

Posted by: Craig at December 9, 2005 12:31 AM

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Well, how about two more? Brandon Hancock 2003 & maybe this year, and Charles Young, back in 1972.

Posted by: Craig at December 9, 2005 12:47 AM

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When D.Wright comes back next year, It's going to be on. Get ready to win, win, win. The Bulldogs are going to have a real good team on both sides of the ball. You fans out there must back this team 100%, the bulldogs are going to come back hard and when they do look out.

Posted by: Edward at December 9, 2005 6:20 AM

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